And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals. Jakes daughter), Priscilla Shirers promo page at Hillsong, Priscilla Shirer, featured speaker at Hillsongs 2016 Colour ConferencewithBrian Houston, Bobbie Houston, andChristine Caine. It sounds like you want to be discerning and weigh things carefully. All of the resources and links Ive included are from credible sources (The disclaimer at the top of the list simply means I have not read everything ever written by every single resource Ive listed. Well since thats the case, why dont you study and agree with what the Bible says? 5. read more, Scripture: Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. No-one is beyond compassion. In keeping with the spirit of Titus 3:10-11, this is your second warning (the first is in the Welcome tab, which youve obviously already read) I will not engage in debate about biblical truth and I will not publish comments or respond to e-mails/messages attempting to engage me in debate. If you could give me some rightly handled, in context, chapter and verse Scripture to back up your opinions and beliefs, we could talk about it. There are two sources for fear: when we are caught up in something we did not count on, and when we are not in control. However, a teenager pointed out to me that Abraham was called . Im sorry, Im a little unclear. (Yikes!). Let me tell you something, if your church recommended War Room, you can almost be certain that its leadership knew next to nothing about Shirer. There is only ONE requirement for salvation, and that is accepting that Jesus Christs blood took the place of our sin, recognize our sin and confess it, believe that Jesus is Gods son. There's more to my answer than you might think. Glad to know i am not the only dude that reads this wonderful sisters blog. In a day and age where any type of hope is needed, especially to the unchurched, I would listen to either Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer any day of the week over the news. Id be interested, too! When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray, He taught them: Pray then like this: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. 15 Outstanding Quotes To Recharge Your Preaching. I dont think you read my comment carefully enough. Also your references in Matthew do not apply, and sadly this out of context mess gets regurgitated as much, if not more so, as Matthew 7, and the whole Do not ever judge crowd. https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christ-centered-silence-for-noisy-advent-season. but i will look to the word of God , and i will talk to my pastor. You are spot on. In Acts 17:11, the Bereans are praised for comparing everything Paul said to Scripture to see if it was true. That is not what the Bible says that preachers and teachers are to do. 2. She seems somewhat self righteous. But, yes, sometimes I do offer to send someone Im talking to (face to face) links to my articles, other peoples articles, books, sermons, etc., if theyd like to study an issue more. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? It just says dont. Period. in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. #3- There are a couple of links in the additional resources section that deal with Priscillas teaching of contemplative prayer, but I really should have included one in the paragraph itself, so Ive fixed that. Because you seem to be arguing against the biblical truth youve already read and have rejected reading any of the further biblical teaching Ive referred you to. Can you explain ? Genesis 24:1-4. but me and the wife basically just wanted to thank and encourage you sorry for the wall of text! Thank you again. Pastors dont read LifeWay studies or pay attention to the false teaching crowd, for the most part. Scripture: John says virtually the same thing, and adds that to partner with false teachers is to take part in their wicked works. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. 1. (Oh my goodness~ thank you for using the term hermeneutics, eisegesis and exegesis! Have you ever pondered how a rubber band feels when a person stretches it beyond where it has been? I am more of an egalitarian, but Shirer rubs me the wrong way too. Id encourage you not to take my word for it, but to examine the evidence against Scripture (in context, of course) for yourself. No where did she usurp authority etc. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer - The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-"pastored" by a woman) Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018 Again, since Scripture, not our opinions or feelings, is our authority, we have to obey that. Lots of information about those online and at http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com and Berean Research. 2 Timothy 4:5 Verse Concepts For example, the Bible clearly says that women are not to preach to or teach men in the church (2 Timothy 2:12). THERE WERE Kay Arthur, Beth Moore, and Priscilla Shirer Believe In Teaching Men Too, Popular False Teachers and Unbiblical Trends, Priscilla Shirer: Living Your Life For Christ (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN, Priscilla Shirer Talks Women and the Church, Moving From the Pew to the Pavement and Why, War Rooms Priscilla Shirers Contemplative History, and Why ItMatters, Review of Priscilla Shirers Sermon: The Multitude, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017, Why I do not recommend Kendrick Brothers new movie, War Room, part 2, Going Beyond Scripture: Why Its Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christ-centered-silence-for-noisy-advent-season, http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html, Priscilla Shirer: vetting a winsome but wayward teacher | Pilgrims Progress revisited - Christiana on the narrow way, Sharing the Housewife Theologians Review of Fervent | Steak and a Bible, https://michellelesleybooks.com/2015/12/18/rock-your-role-faqs/, https://www.osv.com/Magazines/TheCatholicAnswer/ByIssue/Article/TabId/809/ArtMID/13667/ArticleID/16800/Why-Did-Jesus-Use-Parables.aspx, https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-parables.html, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fIzWbXvfps, http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18085, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk, http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=10843, Dr. Oz, Priscilla Shirer, Carl Lentz partner for Faithful Fridays show | Aspreeman's Archives, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017 Emergent Watch, Is She a False Teacher? .. that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. There is no way to be saved by putting your faith in a false christ. You are an intelligent woman. You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings. It would stand to reason that all those that have never heard of Christ have not accepted Him and therefore, as Rom 1 details, they die in their sin. Are they guiding and leading a flock ( a church )? Pink Impact ConferencePriscilla joined with faith healing apostle of the New Apostolic Reformation, Todd White, as well as false teachers Christine Caine, Lisa Harper, and Pastor Debbie Morris. I shared this post on Facebook the same day my new pastor friend requested me. , an unbiblical practice sometimes called narcissistic. Though you may have become acquainted with her over the last several years from her roles in the movies Overcomer and War Room,she has been writing womens Bible studies and has been a popular speaker at womens conferences and other events for many years. Personal experiences can be evidence of the truth of rightly handled and understood Scripture, but not vice versa. If it were, Paul, Jude, Peter, and even Jesus would be guilty of that sin. How I wish I could ask him what he thinks of his heathen saving methods now that he has seen the face of Jesus!). The Mailbag: Is It OK for Christian Women to Wear Bikinis? Day and night they go around her upon her walls, And iniquity and mischief are in her midst. Armor of God Workbook with Video Access Pastor Chris Rosebrough explains why Priscillas twisting of John 10 to mean that we can hear God speak to us is unbiblical. Thank you, Daisy. Do you have other references to their false teaching? Jesus did that too, so did Samuel, so did Elijah . Christians dont get to have our own personal opinions. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. Part 11 - Matthew 9:32-38 - That's When Miracles Happen! read more, Scripture: Do you think the stretching feels good? I wont be publishing comments or answering emails that are answered by this article. Grayson Baptist Church - July 28, 2013 The youtube video you offer here in your post is not available and Id kind of like to see what you were talking about. That must have been before she asked for (and received) her pastors and husbands permission to teach men in her Sunday School class. However, from time to time, I get people who comment or send e-mails pretending to genuinely want help just so they can get their comments published and who then proceed to argue and twist Scripture in subsequent comments. But books and blogs written for women are not what 1 Timothy 2:12 refers to, and its not the same as willingly allowing men to attend (which is something Beth and Priscilla both do) an event where a woman, in an authoritative position, is teaching Gods word to believers, or accepting speaking engagements that are open to men. Have women not been given a part in The Great Commission from Jesus? As Joshua was facing the end of his life, he challenged the people to chose, the choice they would make would define them as a people. Id recommend starting with Rock Your Role FAQs #11, then moving on to Jill in the Pulpit. There are still some good, solid blogs over there (such as Kevin DeYoungs and Erik Raymonds), and they frequently put out helpful, doctrinally solid articles, but Ive chosen to use other sources instead. Remember, the Bible says our hearts are deceitful (Jeremiah 17:9), so we cant trust our feelings unless they line up with, and are based on, the truth of Gods word. We are to base everything we think, do, and believe on Scripture. People Listen In Different Wayscan You Reach All Of Them? Yes, hope is needed, and no youre not going to find it on the news, but youre not going to find true hope in Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer, either, because not only can you not find hope in bad news (like the TV news) but you cant find hope in false news either, and thats what they teach. What an encouragement! How can you trust that anything else she teaches you about the Bible is accurate and true? Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; The law in this case, being Scripture. Id be delighted to hear back from you, Elizabeth. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. We have many of these moments through out our physical lives. She does teach and preach to men whether I say she does or not. Id like to ask, was Kenneth Hagin also a false preacher, because he dealt extensively with this issue of women preaching in his book, and made several clarifications in his book The Women Question. Your sermon reminded me about Peace of God and Love -Opened new This is a very good reason not to sit under their teaching. 2 John 1:1-11. Free Sermons and Sermon Outlines for Preaching : How To Respond To Newly-Delivered People Who Still Are A Mess. God made you capable and smart enough to read His word in a systematic way, understand it, and grow from it. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective. I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. This is how people learn and grow in their faith. Your objection is most likely answered here. 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. However, under Three Suggestions he mentions biblical reflection, meditate on His word, and Christ-centered silence. Theres too much wiggle room in this article to pin him down on exactly what he means by silence. Id like to see him go back and tighten it up one way or the other to give clarity to his readers. This article really turned me off on her. #1 You have noted that Priscilla preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures but I cant find the link. Yes, Im afraid thats exactly whats happening. Romans 8:24 For we She also teaches false doctrine (things that either are at odds with Scripture or arent in Scripture at all) and partners with other false teachers (people who teach false doctrine). As Christians, the Bible is our authority, so its what the Bible says that matters, and thats what I point women to. Finally, you summed up your blog post on why Christian women shouldnt follow, support or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer because she teaches men (though I cant find evidence of this but Im still lookin! Scripture doesnt specify that only preaching from a pulpit on Sunday morning as a pastor would or leading a church qualifies as preaching to or teaching men, but, yes, they have both done the former and neither has indicated repentance over it or any plans to stop doing so. You may have loved her in War Room and want to buy her books. I would love for you to hang out with us here at the blog and/or on social media (links at the top of this page). *People who blessed us. If so, then she is well aware of what the Bible says about these issues. It was an immediate NO after I listened to less than 1 minute of her reference about Oprah. My heart longs for you to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ by learning the truth of His word. Paul is quite clearthat people who preach another gospel are accursed, or damned, and that we are not to partner with them. (Also, their main genre is apologetics, not discernment.) MAIN TEXT: MATTHEW 14:15 Here are my 2.1. 18:15-18), although I would add: The minute someone puts something on Youtube, Face Book, Twitter, or any other social media, or public outlet for that matter, your proof text falls flat in on itself, because more than anything this text deals with proper Church discipline. There CAN be women from different denominations there, what is so wrong with that? Youve come to the correct conclusion about Priscillas teaching, and the Holy Spirit does direct genuine believers away from false teaching (John 10:5), but I want all of my readers who happen across this comment to please make sure (as Im sure Lynette did) you ALWAYS base your beliefs on what Scripture says, not on feelings and impressions. And then help teach it to other women. 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